Guest Dr. Carmin Chan joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to consider how we might reframe the typical institutional data that might not present clearly the needs and progress of post-traditional learners served by online education.

Guest Dr. Dylan Barth joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to discuss the benefits of “self-care” and wellbeing to our students, our organizations, and to ourselves as online education professionals. The impact of decisions now on long-term sustainability is a theme.